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Announcing the Event Calendar (#1342)
Posted: 9/17/2000; 5:39 PM by Seth Dillingham
Modified: 9/17/2000; 5:42 PM by Seth Dillingham
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We did it!

We're very pleased to announce that our newest baby is finally ready to be shown to the world. Conversant now has an event calendar! All current sites, free or paid, have access to it.

The docs for the event calendar are almost complete. You'll find them at http://www.free-conversant.com/free-conversant/support/docs/EventCalendar/.

Before you set up an event calendar in your site, perhaps you'd like to browse our demo? http://www.free-conversant.com/free-conversant/calendarDemo/

Please consider the current version to be a work in progress. There are likely to be some bugs, and there are probably some things that you'll find a little confusing. If you find anything like that, please report it to us here on the support site so that we can get them fixed ASAP.

The Event Calendar plugin is a very big deal for us, because it's the first real demonstration of Conversant's flexibility outside of the realms of content management and discussion groups. We've said all along that Conversant is a Groupware Platform, and having a built-in Event Calendar helps us to demonstrate this point.

There are some things you should be aware of, before you start to use the calendar.

First, the descriptions of the events in the event calendar are stored as messages in the discussion group. This is cool because it means you can discuss events if you want to. This also introduces a small problem that we haven't dealt with yet, but will be soon. That is, there's no context, so messages that belong to events look incomplete when viewed on their own (in the DG, email, or news).

Consider a message that simply says, "Oren's Birthday"... it doesn't offer much if the rest of the event information isn't there also. We're going to fix this by allowing you to specify a separate template for viewing events in the dg/email/newsgroup. This isn't ready yet, but it's coming soon.

Second, there are many, many important features planned for the event calendar, that haven't been implemented yet. We're going to post a public list of these features sometime in the next couple of days. We want to get your feature requests, but please look at this list first, to see if we're already planning it.

Finally, we hope that you enjoy using the event calendar as much as we've enjoyed working on it. We've had a lot of fun writing it! Conversant is a wonderful groupware platform (speaking now from a developer's perspective), and is allowing us to do things that would seem to be too big a task to undertake in any other system.

Please let us know what you think!

Seth Dillingham
President, Macrobyte Resources

P.S. Special thanks go to Philippe "Flip" Martin, for all of his incredible work, especially on the code that manages the Event Calenar's interface. Everybody at Macrobyte deserves some credit for the new baby, but without Flip's tireless efforts and patience with people who actually need to sleep occasionally, we'd never have gotten as far as we did. Thanks Flip!

RE: Announcing the Event Calendar (#1343)
Posted: 9/17/2000; 6:50 PM by Mark Morgan
Modified: 9/17/2000; 6:50 PM by Mark Morgan
Response to: 1342
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Feature requests? What are those? :-P

I commend the work that must have gone into this. It is amazing that one tool, Conversant, can be used for such divergent tasks as managing the content of a website and an online group scheduling tool. The two tasks have as little in common as I can think of two tasks having.

My highest praises, make up your own flowery phrases to put in here...

Re: Announcing the Event Calendar (#1344)
Posted: 9/17/2000; 7:22 PM by Sean McMains
Modified: 9/17/2000; 7:22 PM by Sean McMains
Response to: 1342
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I've created a new event calendar at http://www.three-rivers-church.org/calendar. (Hooray!) The calendar is viewable, and looks fine. Unfortunately, when I try to add an event, I get this error: Can't coerce the value to a 32-bit number. It's displayed in the Create Event window.

As usual, any help is appreciated. :)

Sean
RE: Announcing the Event Calendar (#1345)
Posted: 9/17/2000; 8:02 PM by Duncan Smeed
Modified: 9/17/2000; 8:02 PM by Duncan Smeed
Response to: 1342
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Perhaps it's because I set up a calendar page some time ago but I get the following error when accessing smeed/calendar:

Sorry! There was an error: Can't find a sub-table named "calendarStore". 

The error was detected by Frontier 7.0b18 in mainResponder.respond. Webmaster: support@free-conversant.com. Time: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 23:46:01 GMT.

I deleted the original file and went through the creation and set-up process again but got the same error.

Cheers,

Duncan

RE: Announcing the Event Calendar (#1346)
Posted: 9/17/2000; 8:22 PM by Duncan Smeed
Modified: 9/17/2000; 8:22 PM by Duncan Smeed
Response to: 1345
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Perhaps related. The macro <!--#eventCalendarFiltersBox--> gives the following in the HTML source:

<!--eventCalendarFiltersBox: Can't evaluate the expression because the name "Conv_eventCalendarAdrPageScripts" hasn't been defined.-->

RE: Announcing the Event Calendar (#1347)
Posted: 9/17/2000; 8:41 PM by Seth Dillingham
Modified: 9/17/2000; 8:41 PM by Seth Dillingham
Response to: 1345
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Duncan said:

>I deleted the original file and went through the creation and set-up
>process again but got the same error.

Are you still having this problem, and the other one you mentioned? It all appears to be working OK from here, I can see your calendar.

The calendar was slightly more "beta-like" than we thought it was. We (foolishly) made a few last minute changes which broke more than they fixed. Most of those problems have been solved now, but we're still working on the last one (don't delete the two default category groups from your calendar, or it won't work any more).

Seth

RE: Announcing the Event Calendar (#1348)
Posted: 9/17/2000; 9:15 PM by Duncan Smeed
Modified: 9/17/2000; 9:15 PM by Duncan Smeed
Response to: 1347
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At 12:45 am +0000 18/9/00, Seth Dillingham wrote:
>
>
>Duncan said:
>
>>I deleted the original file and went through the creation and set-up
>>process again but got the same error.
>
>Are you still having this problem, and the other one you mentioned?
>It all appears to be working OK from here, I can see your calendar.

I still get the same error in MacIE5, but strangely enough see it in
NN4.08. So it seems to be a browser-detect/select issue server-side.

I'll need to reposition the Display filters though...

>
>The calendar was slightly more "beta-like" than we thought it was.
>We (foolishly) made a few last minute changes which broke more than
>they fixed.

B-}


> Most of those problems have been solved now, but we're still
>working on the last one (don't delete the two default category
>groups from your calendar, or it won't work any more).

OK. Thanks.

Duncan

RE: Announcing the Event Calendar (#1349)
Posted: 9/17/2000; 9:17 PM by Philippe Martin
Modified: 9/17/2000; 9:17 PM by Philippe Martin
Response to: 1347
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At 0:45 +0000 18/09/00, Seth Dillingham wrote:

>Most of those problems have been solved now, but we're still working on the last one (don't delete the two default category groups from your calendar, or it won't work any more).

That's fixed, now.

Flip
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Philippe MARTIN (a.k.a. Flip) mailto:flip@macrobyte.net
http://www.MacrobyteResources.com http://www.Free-Conversant.com
RE: Announcing the Event Calendar (#1350)
Posted: 9/17/2000; 9:20 PM by Duncan Smeed
Modified: 9/17/2000; 9:20 PM by Duncan Smeed
Response to: 1346
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>Free-Conversant Tech Support Forum
>Message: http://www.free-conversant.com/free-conversant/support/1346
>----------------------------------
>
>Perhaps related. The macro <!--#eventCalendarFiltersBox--> gives
>the following in the HTML source:
>
><!--eventCalendarFiltersBox: Can't evaluate the expression because
>the name "Conv_eventCalendarAdrPageScripts" hasn't been defined.-->

I get this problem in NN4.08 too. I see it on the smeed/messages
page for instance.

HTH,

Duncan

RE: Announcing the Event Calendar (#1351)
Posted: 9/17/2000; 9:23 PM by Philippe Martin
Modified: 9/17/2000; 9:23 PM by Philippe Martin
Response to: 1348
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At 1:15 +0000 18/09/00, Duncan Smeed wrote:


>I still get the same error in MacIE5, but strangely enough see it in
>NN4.08. So it seems to be a browser-detect/select issue server-side.

Could it be reloading the error from its cache? I'm looking at your calendar at this very moment in MacIE5 and everything looks fine.

>I'll need to reposition the Display filters though...

Yes, everything but the Display filters positioning. ;-)

Flip
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http://www.MacrobyteResources.com http://www.Free-Conversant.com
RE: Announcing the Event Calendar (#1352)
Posted: 9/17/2000; 9:33 PM by Philippe Martin
Modified: 9/17/2000; 9:33 PM by Philippe Martin
Response to: 1350
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At 1:20 +0000 18/09/00, Duncan Smeed wrote:


>I get this problem in NN4.08 too. I see it on the smeed/messages
>page for instance.

Oh, that's not a problem, there. The filters box isn't assumed to be displayed in pages outside of the calendar (where it would be meaningless, outside of its context).

Thanks for the report, though. I'll fix it to return an empty string.

Flip
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Philippe MARTIN (a.k.a. Flip) mailto:flip@macrobyte.net
http://www.MacrobyteResources.com http://www.Free-Conversant.com
Re: Announcing the Event Calendar (#1353)
Posted: 9/17/2000; 10:50 PM by Sean McMains
Modified: 9/17/2000; 10:50 PM by Sean McMains
Response to: 1349
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>Most of those problems have been solved now, but we're still working on the last one (don't delete the two default category groups from your calendar, or it won't work any more).

That's fixed, now.

Flip,

I tried to add an event to my calendar, but it's still displaying an error with the event in it (http://www.three-rivers-church.org/calendar):

Sorry! There was an error: Frontier Engine: Can't get the category "0000000" because the category group "0000001" wasn't found.

Sean
RE: Announcing the Event Calendar (#1354)
Posted: 9/18/2000; 5:54 AM by Duncan Smeed
Modified: 9/18/2000; 5:54 AM by Duncan Smeed
Response to: 1351
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At 1:23 am +0000 18/9/00, Philippe Martin wrote:
>Could it be reloading the error from its cache? I'm looking at your
>calendar at this very moment in MacIE5 and everything looks fine.

It may well have been a cache issue - I didn't do force reload but I
no longer get the original error so all is well. I suspect that the
original error was due to an incorrectly set up calendar page due to
early experimentation. Sorry for the false alarm.

>
>>I'll need to reposition the Display filters though...
>
>Yes, everything but the Display filters positioning. ;-)

Yes, I'll need to move that macro!

Cheers,

Duncan


RE: Announcing the Event Calendar (#1355)
Posted: 9/18/2000; 6:11 AM by Duncan Smeed
Modified: 9/18/2000; 6:11 AM by Duncan Smeed
Response to: 1342
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I really liked the fact that you can set up different templates for different functions. Since I had made a mess of the placement of my calendars filter display I fixed this by duplicating a template and changing that rather them risk screwing up my normal template. Worked like a charm.

I always tend to run an HTML validator over any change such as this and the validator flagged up

<td align='center width='33%' class='eventCalendarViewLinksCell'>

since there is no closing single quote on 'center.

There are a number of other non-validating aspects of the calendar page. Feel free to visit smeed/calendar and run the validator that's linked at the bottome of the page.

I also noticed that I get the last few days of August cited in the September calendar on the lead up to September 1. Not quite sure if this is a feature or not ;-)

Great works guys,

Duncan

RE: Announcing the Event Calendar (#1361)
Posted: 9/18/2000; 12:01 PM by Philippe Martin
Modified: 9/18/2000; 12:01 PM by Philippe Martin
Response to: 1355
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At 10:16 +0000 18/09/00, Duncan Smeed wrote:


>Free-Conversant Tech Support Forum
>Message: http://www.free-conversant.com/free-conversant/support/1355
>----------------------------------
>
>I really liked the fact that you can set up different templates for different functions. Since I had made a mess of the placement of my calendars filter display I fixed this by duplicating a template and changing that rather them risk screwing up my normal template. Worked like a charm.
>
>I always tend to run an HTML validator over any change such as this and the validator flagged up
>
>
><td align='center width='33%' class='eventCalendarViewLinksCell'>

Good catch. It's fixed on the server, and I fixed it in your template.

Those who already created their calendar will have to fix it in their template.

Go to the properties screen of your calendar. For example:

yourSite/admin/conversations/yourSite/structure $path=yourSite%2Fcalendar

Scroll the window all the way down and find the section named "7. Filters Box".

The missing quote is in the Filters box template.


>since there is no closing single quote on 'center.
>
>There are a number of other non-validating aspects of the calendar page. Feel free to visit smeed/calendar and run the validator that's linked at the bottome of the page.

I did. The remaining errors are rather meaningless, I think.

>I also noticed that I get the last few days of August cited in the September calendar on the lead up to September 1. Not quite sure if this is a feature or not ;-)

Yes it is. BTW, there's a different style for the days in the current month, and the days in the month before or after, to make obvious they're not in the current month.

Also note that the events for these "out of range" days won't be displayed. The search includes only the events in the requested month, and these extra days are there only for cosmetic reasons.

>
>Great works guys,

Thanks! And thanks for your reports, Duncan.

Flip
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